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Letters, Random Memories
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"CONGO, THE MOTORCYCLE RIDING
APE"
As promised, I found the story about John F., my 8502 B roommate
and friend. This story was originally written for my children. I'm not
exactly sure how accurate the ending is, though, since I may have
taken some liberties. Does anyone from 8502 remember things
differently?
"My good friend John Fir__one has been mentioned before in
these letters. I met him in Great Lakes when we were both
students in EM-A school. We were also in the same nuclear power
school class in Orlando. John was huge! I would guess that he was
about 6' 4" and weighed about 300 lbs. John's pride and joy was
his Honda Gold Wing—a huge motorcycle that looked like a mini-bike
between his mighty legs. John was so strong and powerful that he
could (and would routinely) pop wheelies on that giant motorcycle to
show off for us or whoever else happened to be watching.
John was a below average student
and was barely hanging on in nuke school. Toward the latter half of
school he developed a skin irritation (on his hands) and was told
that he might have to be removed from the nuclear power program and
given a medical discharge from the service. Soon it became a race
between failure from nuke school and the medical discharge. If he
failed out of school before the medical discharge, he'd be
re-assigned to the fleet as a conventional electrician, where his
skin condition wasn't an issue.
The weeks dragged on and John was
doing very poorly in school. If he failed one more exam he was out.
Our chief was doing everything in his power to delay the doctor's
final report to keep John from "escaping." Then came the
showdown—looming at week’s end was the infamous reactor principles exam
#4, the grand daddy of them all. It was well known that this
particular test was a killer (more students flunked this one more
than any other). John's doctor, on Monday of that week, decided to
recommend him for a medical discharge. John saw the light at the end
of the tunnel; however, Tuesday and Wednesday came and no action was
taken. By Thursday afternoon John was in a genuine panic; if the
doctor's report didn't de-nuke him before the next morning, he would
have to take the test. He told us that if by some miracle, either he
passed the test or got his medical discharge in time, he would buy a
gorilla suit and ride his motorcycle up and down Colonial Blvd (the
main road in front of the base) to celebrate.
Then Friday morning came and we
all sat at our desks in silence. At 8:00 sharp, our teacher walked
in with the exams. As the test was [being] handed out, John hung his
head low in sorrow; he was doomed. Just as we were told to begin the
exam, the door opened and in walked our Chief. He had a frown on his
face and said:
'Fir__ne, collect your things.
Your medical discharge just came through.'
Everyone in the class began to
cheer as John collected his things and walked out of the classroom,
forever!
Well, true to his word, John went
and bought the gorilla suit and, on the very next day, drove up and
down Colonial Blvd in the hairy outfit. He popped wheelies, honked
his horn, and cranked the bike’s stereo (blasting out circus
music). Taped to the cargo compartment of his bike was a sign that
read:
'Congo - The Motorcycle Riding
Ape.'
People lined the streets wondering
what the hell was going on."
KP Note: As I said above I'm
not sure if the ending of this story is true. I think
John bought the ape suit and I think he drove around Colonial
Blvd but I don't actually remember seeing it. That RP #4 exam
was flunked by my entire section and the so-called "Picture
Incident" was just about to begin as a result. That is
why my memory is fuzzy about the events immediately following John's
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More About John F.
John Firestone was a farm boy from Greenville, PA and I have
spent years looking for him. One time I was even driving
through Greenville and stopped and asked people if they knew him or
his family. No luck. These days I do Google searches on
his name and still don't find anything. Hmmmm, I wonder where
he could be ..... ?
It's funny how you don't think about someone for a long time and
then one memory gives way to a ton of memories. I'll never
forget the first time I saw John sitting in the lounge of the ITB
162, when we were both in BEE school. He looked like a giant
with a baby face. Weeks later he and I were hanging together
and having regular adventures. I'm also looking
for my good friend Alan Huff. He also was in 8502 B and was my
roommate at MARF. He failed his final board and wound up on
the USS Sacramento. We saw each other throughout the
'86 Westpac since the Sacramento was one of our
escorts. I lost touch with him after that. Al was one of
the funniest guys I ever met. KP |
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3-Plant RM!
I have visited your wonderful site several times and read all the stories. Brings back some fond memories of the days in
Bummertown and Alameda. And who could ever forget the PI.
Here is a story I haven't seen on your pages. After finally leaving PSNS the secondary shield tanks wouldn't hold level. Green dye
was put in all the tanks to look for leaks. It turned out there weren't any, the yard had plugged all the vent lines and the tanks kept
on burping and level would drop. After arriving in Alameda with the wives, kids, cats and dogs
onboard. The green water was dumped out of all the tanks into the bilges. Well, the water level in the bilges was about up to the deck plates so it had to be
pumped overboard. It would have been better if it was done discretely
at night. But instead it was pumped over in the middle of the morning. Big green slick down San
Francisco Bay. Made the evening news.
Having left the Navy but not the Navy Nuke program, I have run into several other ex Enterprise Nukes. Seems some people just
can't break the ties. Even got the chance to help with the refueling at Newport News. The thing was so rusty they had to use
impact drivers to disassemble the CRDMS. Work currently has me at NRF. The place still exists. All the prototypes are shutdown
now, kind of sad to see them sitting idle.
Fred Hirayama
RM23 '81-'85
IwaHirayama@cs.com |
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Kevin Morris Comes Aboard!
KP,
I was onboard the Big E from November 1977 through
November 1981. I was in RC-14 and then Crew C while in the Yards.
Reading the entries on your site has brought back great memories,
although most of that period of my life is pretty foggy. Chalk that
up to years and beers. I’ve recognized lots of names so far too,
and I’m looking forward to seeing more come out of the shadows.
Unfortunately, I haven’t done too well at
staying in touch with the friends I made on the Enterprise, although
I did spend a great weekend this past summer catching up with Mark
Schall when he and his wife made the trip from North Carolina to
Michigan to visit. Thanks again Mark!
A couple pages back Buddy Hierholzer mentioned
Greg Lawrence. Buddy, I heard from "Sam Kilo" in about
1988. He called from Sheboygan, Wisconsin to let me know that some 4
Planters were planning a reunion in Las Vegas. I’m pretty sure he
said it was being organized by Jim Rusch. I didn’t make it, but I’m
wondering if anybody out there did? I’d love to hear about it.
Given that bunch, it must have been a great party!
Kevin Morris
morrisk@dteenergy.com |
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Modern Era RE!
Hi my name is EM2 Killingsworth, Michael. I work in RE11 now and was RE22. My email address is
Stryfe_81@hotmail.com |
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"Fred and Me"
I was wondering where my old Sea Dad ended up. Fred Hirayama was without doubt, the person who knew
more about RM systems than anyone.
The image attached was drawn in the RM23 Dopey Book -- you know the one under the 1 shaft spring bearing
forward in RARLL? The artist was Don Davis (if I remember right). When Fred was assigned as my Sea Dad,
Don had to make an entry:

Welcome Fred to these pages. We all look forward to hearing your stories of Deck Plate Tag and other
endeavors of your life on ENTERPRISE, both as a squid and during your later life.
Mark Best
junque@zianet.com
Las Cruces, NM |
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"SOP" from Joe B.
I was going through some old files and found this: Across the top was hand-written, "Standard Operating Procedure - CVN-65"
THE PLAN
In the beginning was the Plan
And then came the Assumptions.
And the Assumptions were without form.
And the Plan was without substance.
And darkness was upon the face of the Workers.
And they spoke among themselves, saying, "It is a crock of shit, and it stinks."
And the workers went unto their Supervisors and said, "It is a pail of dung, and we can't live with the smell."
And the Supervisors went unto their Managers, saying, "It is a container of excrement, and it is very strong, such that none may abide by it."
And the Managers went unto their Directors, saying, "It is a vessel of fertilizer, and none may abide its strength."
And the Directors spoke among themselves, saying to one another, "It contains that which aids plant growth, and it is very powerful."
And the Directors went unto the Vice Presidents, saying unto them, "It promotes growth, and it is very powerful."
And the Vice Presidents went unto the President, saying unto him, "This new plan will actively promote the growth and vigor of the company, with powerful effects."
And the President looked upon the plan, and saw that it was good.
And the Plan became Policy.
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A Letter From My Old Division Officer!!!
Hi Ram,
....
I'm a physicist at LLNL. Mostly I do computational physics related to gas- and
hydrodynamics. Been working here since '88 when I got out of the Navy; got my PhD in '94. I'm also a group leader,
so I manage five other projects, besides working on my own stuff. Keeps me busy.
I don't hear too much from the other officers. Once in a while I hear from Dean Sun, who was a LT. in Eng./E-Div. He stayed in the
Navy for quite a while, but now is out and working on an MS in Alaska (home state). Tommy Corconan (Eng./M-Div) went to work
at a nuc. plant in NJ; Joel Eacker (Rect./RT-Div) went up to work at the Hanford Site. There's another guy here at the lab I've
seen, (and whose name escapes me at the moment) - I believe he used to be in RT before Eacker. He got cancer while teaching
at Idaho and was cashiered out of the Navy. He's in remission, and working here now.
I kept contact with quite a number of enlisted guys because I ran a long running D&D game when I got out of the Navy.
Jim Welch (RC), George Campbell (RC), JD Hartmann (RM), Mike Stonebraker (RM) and Jeff Lewis (RM) all were in it.
Jeff is now an [...] oil refinery worker in NJ, JD works at Rocky Flats as a rad worker, George moved to Oregon and
I think works at Fort Hood, Jim and Mike disappeared. Ollie Sohn (RT) also played for awhile, but got married and moved
to Miami to be near his folks. {I'm pretty sure I got the right divisions, but my memory is 12+ years old now....}
I also heard from Chief Whittsett. He [...] had just gotten out of the Navy. He was pretty unhappy with
his latter Navy (Officer/Mustang) experience, but wanted a letter of recommendation from his 'better' Navy day; I
was happy to oblige since he had been a good chief for me.
Well, back to work,
Paul
| Thanks for the updates Mr.
A! It was great to hear how well you're doing. I
used to know something about computational physics
but I forgot most of it when I assumed the identity of
Mooj. Now all I do is make plant food and help people
achieve oneness with themselves.
I remember Mr. Corconan very well.
He was a guitar player, and we spent many a mid-watch
discussing the greatness of Robert Johnson and Son
House. He also had a band (but I forget who was in it
besides him--mostly 3-plant MDivr's) that often played at
the Park Street Saloon [or was it Park Street Station?] at
the other end of Alameda.
Mr. Eacker was also
a great guy. I remember once someone called the papers
and told them that one of the relief valves opened while we
were pier-side in SF bay (PRV1 lifted for a microsecond during a
trip-and-cal mishap). He did
quite a song and dance explaining everything when the press
called him asking for details since he was the rad-con
officer. He claimed the phone was ringing
"minutes" after the incident so whoever tipped off
the press must have made a bee-line for the phone to start
trouble.
It's funny, I haven't thought about
D&D since the navy. There was always a group of
guys in the aft (non smoking) lounge playing that game. During
the '86 cruise I remember Lance Winters hung up a bunch of
signs advertising that "EM3 Tuli was a [?]th level
wizard and was looking for a D&D game." Some
guy actually woke me up in the middle of the night to see if
I wanted to play (I think it was RL Div's MM2
Jackson). I can't remember what I told the guy but I wasn't too nice. Ollie Sohn, mentioned above, is listed in
the contacts section.
KP |
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More '86 Westpac Memories ....
I mentioned way back on page 1 how RM23's Lance
Winters and I often amused ourselves by hanging signs about each
other all over the ship. Lance's signs always proved effective
(whether it was for finding guys looking for a
"special" roommate or a 9th level D&D master wizard). One sign that Lance posted somewhere near the fwd
mess decks really got some results. It noted that I was giving Hindu meditation lessons. I
can't remember how many people called me inquiring about that (it
was more than a few).
If I was smart I would have made up a Hindu meditation program and
charged for it.
My memory is fuzzy on the details but once the
sign war thing got really out of hand and Brad Stephens became involved
(he was an innocent bystander). Lance thought Brad posted
something (but it was really me) so he filled Brad's boondockers with hair.
(The hair was collected in the aft
lounge during a pre-liberty call haircut marathon.) Poor Brad
was really confused and disturbed about putting his foot inside a boondocker that
was filled with hair. He had no idea why someone would do that
to him. I felt bad about that.
That whole '86 westpac was pretty much nothing but
people pulling jokes on people and then someone getting even because
of it. I remember "MTW" was also pretty brutal to me
in those days and often filled his pockets with sausages and bacon
on the mess decks and then would toss them on me while I
slept. Nothing was creepier than waking up and feeling a
sausage-like object on your face. "VW" also went to
the pain of HP-taping me into my rack one night. He must have
used 3 or 4 rolls of tape and I never heard a thing. When I
woke up I couldn't figure out what the hell happened. People
also used to trap people inside their racks by lifting the coffin
part up and then wedging the support pole down. It was nearly
impossible to get out. If you had no sense of humor you were in trouble.
KP |
| Random Nuclear Memories
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One persistent problems for those of us slowly growing older: How (besides
this site) does one discover other nukes? I have considered yelling,
"Spill" while transiting major airports or the larger bars encountered in traveling,
but this seems likely to cause a bit of confusion in the non-nukes. Odd the
nuclear program did not leave visible marks to help us ID each other.
Memories from the Cruiser (CGN-40 mid 80s):
Crossing the Atlantic with Kennedy battle group we had to transit edges of
hurricane (those conventional tubs get lighter as they speed up and can't
avoid weather easily). In the plant simultaneous High and Low level alarms
for PZR, DA tank, main engine lube oil, condensers ... just a noisy mess.
On the mess decks the chairs were removed. I recall sitting cross legged on the
deck with tray on my lap, sliding across the floor on my butt as the ship
rolled. That was bad enough, but as I finished eating, a mess crank tried to
put a new box of milk in the dispenser. He miss-timed the roll, and the box
of milk shattered on the deck. Huge mess. [I note that the wardroom was
worse, as the gents there eat off of multiple plates, cups and
saucers ... too many to catch and keep from leaving the table.
Probably not the sort of thing you get on an 90,000 ton carrier.]
Midshipman cruise: We embarked a group of mids, and the third class ones all
rotated through T-div (I think bneq). These were NROTC kids from several
universities, and they were so impressed that about 1/2 of them decided
the ol' Nav was not for them ... and they left NROTC when returning to school
that fall. Did you big boat guys ever harass the mids? We treated them
worse than nubs.
Back to high-seas and sea-sickness. We had an M-div'r (a good guy really)
who was really bad. In high seas, he would get the watch sup to EOS, and
then stand at feed control (huge air vents there, one on each side). He
would fill a trash bag during the watch. He would only move to go to
scuttlebutt to tank up on water, which he would then transfer to the trash
bag.
We did have a ghost up in one plant, that may have caused his puking.
Whenever we scrammed, the NI's would go tits up. Two plant had more than 100
more EFPH than one plant when I left. Cross-Connected plants worked fine,
unless lots of bell changes. The Leslie pneumatics could not handle rapid
changes for both plants.
On our cruiser, the distilling unit was run by an A-ganger, who thus could
not be assigned to help out when splitting or cross connecting plants. Since
all they had to do was logs once per hour (and no moving from one spot) one
dragged an alarm clock to wake him up for logs, and some good smut books to
thumb through while waiting. These got stowed in the drawer of the "Hear
Here" booth. NR was not amused when they found them a few days after we
returned to port.
In port week after med run lots of people are gone, and new nubs are
arriving. The plants are very quiet. The shutdown mechanic took a grease
pencil and did some art work on the PMS board where we also had a clock. The
inscription was "Mr. Clock says tune your radio to WLOG, for all your log
taking needs."
For a while after return, you also need all the RCPs running for decay heat.
The 38 class has plugs for twenty shore power cables, ten forward and ten
aft. Usual hookup was ten only. This would allow hotel loads plus
RCPs. There were two Mk26 missile launchers, each with 5 or 6 large motors for
hydraulics. Lit off one at a time manually, no problem. If they were all
turned on in auto the shore power breakers would trip. OOPS .... no lights,
diesel starts, FZ alarms, security alerts. Would happen every month or so.
We once blew up the shore power breakers, and on a really good evening,
toasted one of the shore-side transformers. Fun, Fun, Fun. Bad memory:
Offgoing watch section would have to pull the shore power cables up from
pier with a rope. First on and Last off is really true.
King Paul mentioned being taped into his rack. We did that at times. Once we
used dental floss. Ship's store sold spools of 100 yards of the stuff. We
used a dozen or so spools ... around and around and around the empty top rack
and below the bottom of the middle rack. The guy in the middle rack never
woke up. I seem to recall he cut himself out with toe nail clippers.
You did need a great sense of humor to make it through, but I agree the nuke
program had a profound influence on how I think. I once had a master's
thesis underway about the program, but dropped it. Needless to say it would
not fit the politics of 90% of those that would have reviewed it.
Best to all the aging nukes out there. The memories seem particular strong
as preps for war continue. Particular best wishes to the nukes of today who
will never be on CNN, but who keep things moving (literally)
Cruiser Ghost |
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Midshipman Memories
Before we moved to Phoenix we lived in Maryland,
about 30 minutes north of the Naval Academy. I loved Annapolis
and often walked
around the academy with my children and told my sons (and daughters) that
someday I hope they go there. If they do I hope when they go
on their summer cruises they get treated better than how we treated
midshipmen on the Big E.
I already mentioned one midship-woman, who I took
on a tour of the Fwd IC shack, where she was offended by all the
pornography posted in there. Had I done a 'pre-watch tour' I
would never have taken her down there. This "midshipwoman" was
actually from Duke (ROTC?). She was a total bitch and told me
that I could never get into a place like Duke. I was a short timer
then and applying to colleges. I was interested in Duke and
asked her about it. She sized me up and told me I wasn't Duke
material. (That is why I often "dis" Duke in my Mooj
newsletters). She was actually assigned to our Division Officer
for a week and followed him around wherever he went. Whenever
she followed him into the RE office we would try to guess the color
of her nipples
and she had no idea what we were talking about. Our DO knew
what we were doing and would frown at us. During that summer
('89 -'90 cruise) I was assigned my very own midshipman for a week.
I was a PO1 then and for some reason Cmdr Bersticker (the RO)
liked me so he asked me to do it. My midshipman was between his freshman and sophomore
year (he wore dungarees) and was pretty cool. I actually did
everything I could for the guy to make sure he got the most out of
his time in reactor department. The
only unkind thing I did was ask the drill team to nail him
with water during a spill drill (SWIMS.....). They made
the poor guy undress completely. The "middie" actually liked RE Div since
he had already spent a few weeks with two other top side
divisions. He said we were much smarter that the other
enlisted men he met and found it unusual that we didn't smoke or
cuss as
much.
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One for the Cruiser Ghost ....
Hey KP,
Couldn't stop laughing when I read the latest stories. Especially Cruiser Ghost wanting to yell Spill in a public place. Too funny.
It brought to mind a couple of more stories from the CGN-40 from the late 80s. We got 30 middies aboard for a 6 week northern
Europe run. The powers that make all of the really dumb decisions decided to put them all in the same berthing. So they kicked
RC division out of their racks and put the middies in. Needless to say, RC div'ers were spread all over the ship, making wakeups
nearly impossible. And those middies lived through 6 weeks of pure hell. One of them puked in an ET1's boots (who was left there
to baby sit). Or when some admiral was due onboard the next day, the CDO decided to wake up the duty section at 2300 'cause the ship wasn't
clean enough. 5 minutes after muster was announced, the 1 plant SRO went to the head (swapping watches w/the SEO) and he
tripped into the Shore Power breaker trip button. So much for Field day.
Or when an unknown person (Tim Glassmire?) fell into the CTG trip at 100% power and flow.
Then I went to the Big E for 6 years, which was a pretty good transition from the CGNs. Life on Big E, as seen here, is crazy. Now
that I'm on a Nimitz class, let me tell you, they suck. I'll take a CGN or Big E any day.
Later,
Brian Heasley
CGN 40 87-92
Big E 95-2001
CVN 69 01-04 |
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Change of email address ...
Hi Ya'll,
New E-Mail address is kdh56@comcast.net
Thanx,
Ken Higgins |
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From Another 80's 3-Planter:
Tuli,
I enjoyed your website very much, brought back some great memories.
You were right, somehow you only remember the good times!! I do not want to be on the "contact" list (yet).
I just wanted to say thank you.
sincerely,
Anonymous
rm-23
1984-88! |
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To The Anonymous RM23 Guy:
Hard to believe that there is actually someone from RM-23 (especially from
that timeframe) who is too shy to share their identity. We all would like
to hear your stories as you remember them. We shared a lot of time in the
plants together .... days of Duane Petrie and Duane Bush.
Remember filling Petrie's beloved coffee cup with pubic hair after one of
his tirades?
Mark Best
RM23
junque@zianet.com |
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Another story about soaking Khaki dogs!
Hey KP,
Your story about soaking khaki dogs during spill drills brought back memories of another story. Just before I left the Big E the
shipyard came onboard to work on the feed lines. The work had the feed lines cut right at the steam generators. One morning the
watch officer asked me to fill and sparge the generators being worked on so I had Jim 'Foreskin' Forehand and Bill-E Tarr work on the
job. In order to fill the generators in a timely manner they were instructed on how to bypass the RPFW pumps and fill the generators
directly from the DI main. Well, when in port the DI main usually supplied a good volume of water, had quite a bit of pressure and if
you didn't throttle down on the inlet valve just before filling the SG's solid, there would be a big pressure surge. After filling the first
generator and blowing off the temporary sight gage on the steam generator they were reminded of the pressure surge and told to
throttle down on the inlet a little more. Well I guess I didn't tell them to throttle down enough. About the time the second generator
was just about filled two NRRO went for a tour in the reactor compartment. They stopped to look at the work the shipyard was
doing, right underneath the feed line that was cut. Just then the generator filled, the pressure surged and the temporary plug in the
feed line blew out dumping all the water right on those two NRRO. Couldn't have better timing.
Couldn't have happened to two better people. Better yet, the cause was blamed on the shipyard for improper installation of the plug.
Fred Hirayama |
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MMC Frederickson
KP, I just saw this from a newsletter I get from military.com. I'm not sure, but I am almost positive this guy served on the E in the
80's. He worked for me when I was a CRAO and ALPO in two-plant. If someone has further info, please let me know. If this is him,
He was a great guy, and sad to see another fallen shipmate.
Tony Boone
Submarine Base Sailor Dies in Nightclub Fire
Navy News Service
February 27, 2003
GROTON, Conn -- Rhode Island authorities investigating the West Warwick, R.I., nightclub fire of Feb. 20 have confirmed the death
of Chief Machinist's Mate Dan Frederickson of the Naval Submarine Support Facility (NSSF).
Frederickson, 37, was one of 97 people who died in the blaze, which began when a rock concert's pyrotechnics ignited flames along
the club's back wall. The fire quickly spread and engulfed the entire building within minutes.
He had been assigned to the Naval Submarine Base New London (SUBASE) tenant command in Groton, Conn., since May 2000.
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An Early 80's Hammer Mechanic!
Please list me on the roll sheet. I checked aboard the BIG E Aug. 6, 1981 (my 21st birthday) and was aboard till Aug., 1985. During
my Tour I was assigned to EM22 until moving to 625 and finally the last 6 months in the M-Div office. I enjoyed the site and found a
few former shipmates. Also as a footnote I was single during my enlistment, but Christmas of 2002 I was able to tour the BIG E with
my wife.
Ron Littrell
hopeagle@att.net |
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Cup Wars
It was nice to see another Mississippi nuke pass through. It was an
interesting place to be in the 1980s.
The remarks about pubes in cups, puked boots etc bring some of my early navy
memories up from the pits of middle age.
While I was at S1W (late 82/early 83) some of the staff (submariners all I
think) had a progressive war going on. First it was borrowed or stolen white
hats. This progressed to minor abuse: hats filled with snow and replaced in
filing cabinet drawers. One guy then doused a comrade's hat with some
French dressing. The revenge move was a finger in the throat and puking
into the offender's hat. This was, I thought, unmatchable, but nukes will
always find a way. The ET with the puked in hat used a night shift to do a
wank (lovely brit term) into his enemies coffee cup, giving him a few ml of
creamer I suppose.
The coffee mug (ships crest) was retired to desktop pencil cup duty, and as
far as I know, a truce was declared.
I don't recall any cup wars on CGN-40 going that far.
My time on board was from 83-June 86, being a one plant mechanic. I will
take a moment to salute Devin Mun, sterling mechanic and ERS on my orse
crew. Most other names have faded with time, as I game all my cruise books,
uniforms, medals and junk to a young kid with absent father and dreams of a
military career.
Best wishes to all,
Cruiser Ghost |
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The Boat ....
KP,
When Schmegma House was first mentioned I immediately thought
about an RO. Not sure, but his name might have been Schuerman. He
had reddish brown hair and I think he was from Texas. Anyway, while
in Bremerton, he decided he was going to re-up and I remember him
talking about how he was going to spend his bonus. His initial plan
was to buy a Dodge Ram pickup, but then he had the bright idea of
becoming a boat owner! So he spends pretty much his entire bonus on
an old, wooden, cabin cruiser.
I don’t know how much good use he got out of it, but it ended
up at anchor in the bay just out from Schmegma House. And there it
sat…for a long time. It was the subject of a couple letters to the
editor in the local paper from residents complaining about the
derelict and they even ran a picture. Somebody who was directly
involved with how it all turned out (a Schmegman?) should tell the
rest of the story, because I’m sure my version wouldn’t be
completely accurate. All I know is that since we were on different
crews I would usually only see him at turnover and would try to
remember to ask him about it. The story was sad and embarrassing for
him (and hilarious for the rest of us) to the point that eventually
he’d just lower his head and moan, "I don’t want to talk
about it."
Kevin Morris |
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Bob Filler Comes Aboard
Hey Ram. My name is Robert (Bob) Filler. I was a MM in RM-14 in 1984 & 85. Please place me in your no-nonsense 80's list. You
were in 4 plant. Maybe you remember Dave Luce (Oscar the Grouch), Pinkie, Barry Cox. I am also in picture that Mike Noland
posted of us in PI at some bar. I am in front row to the right. Wearing glasses. I also had
a good friend by name of Mike Brosemer who was in M-Div. Wish I knew where all
those people were. I got off the pig due to a hardship discharge. First wife got killed in car
accident in Vallejo. When I was in 4 plant I worked with Guy Gaines, Willie Wright, Glen Solberg, Chief Parker, Dave Luce, Barry
Cox, Ralph Hall, and others I can't quite remember. I used to do a lot of drinking with a guy by the name of Purcell. Everyone called
him Zippy the pinhead. I also recall seeing Chief Parker floss his nose with a spaghetti noodle. My e-mail address is
rjfiller@tva.gov. I am in
the Navy reserve now and in a seabee battalion that is getting activated to fight Saddam. Should be a swift victory for us. Later.
Bob Filler
| It is always great to hear
from another 4-planter! I remember most of the guys
you mentioned above, especially Barry Cox. Most of
these guys were pretty senior when I showed up in 4-plant as
a nub. Good luck in the Gulf!!
KP |
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For Those Who Care ....
The latest Mooj Weekly Standard
has just been posted. There's a letter in there from one of
you. See if you can guess which one. Also, some of you
"on the ball" Mooj Heads may like to know that new minion
#1370 (Yo Yo Ma Ma) is an old friend of mine, he was an intern back
at SAIC (where I worked until 2002). His likeness was used for
my character "Trent Handjoy." He's a great guy. I was
happy to hear from him again.
KP |
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An A-Ganger!
Hey, how about including an old a-ganger on lists?
I was on Enterprise from Feb 1998 to July 2001 and I worked in the hydraulic
shop of A-Gang. (EA01) my name is Brian Alexander. Thanks!
alexanderbd@laboon.navy.mil |
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Old George ....
Now that it’s NCAA tournament time again I am reminded of a funny incident that happened
long ago in the
NPS BEQ. Back in
those days few of us had TV sets and those that did were everyone’s
friend. (Kind of like how the guy with a car was everyone’s
friend). That was the year of the big upset, when Villanova beat
Georgetown. Everyone wanted to see the game but since most of us
didn’t have a TV, or were on Mando hours, few saw the game live. A
few days later someone obtained a videotape of the game and
someone actually had a VCR and TV in his room (a rare thing
for 1985) so we all got together for a little shin-dig. About halfway through
the game someone walked in (George
Dellamura?) and said, "I bet Georgetown wins." Everyone
took the bet and then someone got up and fast-forwarded the tape to
the end. Everyone was laughing except the poor guy stupid enough to bet
on a game that was played days before.
Speaking of 8502B’s Dellamura, he sure was a character. I think
he was from Brooklyn or the Bronx. One day after lunch we took our
NPS seats to await the afternoon session. A few minutes before class
started "VW" stormed into the classroom. His
face was bright red and he looked like he was insane with rage.
The veins on his neck were even bulging! He then made a
beeline for George and began to beat
him senseless. Within seconds those nearest the scene pulled the two
apart and everything was straightened up before the teacher arrived.
Everyone took their seats and we all pretended like nothing was
going on. No one had a clue what happened—especially poor George. Later that
day I asked VW about what happened but he refused to talk about it.
I guess George D. had a big heart because he quickly forgave VW and
the issue was never brought up again.
Years later VW and I were roommates. We
shared a house with Dicko and "Q" in Dublin during the '87
SRA. One day I was
driving into work with VW and asked him, "Say VW,
remember way back in nuke school when you came in from lunch that day
and started beating the hell out of George Dellamura? ...... What the hell
was that all about ....... ?" At first he was reluctant to tell
me but finally did.
It turned out that
during the lunch break VW went back to his room. While there George
asked if he could borrow some toilet paper. VW couldn’t remember
what he told George but later, when VW was going to the bathroom, he
found that there was no toilet paper. It was just one of those
things where poor VW really needed toilet paper and didn’t have
any. And, in his mind, it was all George’s fault. The guy, instead
of taking only a few sheets—took the whole damn roll!
Another funny memory I have of George took place when we were
at prototype.
Back in those days I was living in Middle Grove, NY with fellow
8502B classmates Dave Feisleben, Bill Cawthon and Al Huff. Bill and Dave had cars and Al
and I didn’t. Thus, it became a real hardship when
Dave and Bill were assigned to section 4 (at S8G, "i.e., skate
8") and Al and I were in assigned to section 1 (at MARF). Our house was about
8 miles from the site so we were in deep shit.
In the early days we relied on our benevolent neighbors Joe
Nieves (EM14), Todd Landis (EM23) and the infamous Oompa Lumpa Man (EM23?) for
a ride. But then
those dreaded +2s started and we were often stranded without
a ride home. Al and I would then have to employ what we called
"the walk of sympathy" to get a ride home. Basically, we
would walk along the road (with the DIG Ball to our backs) and hang our
heads low. The more pathetic we looked the better. Usually someone
would feel bad for us and stop and offer us a ride before we got too far.
One day it was pouring out. We kept walking and walking and no
one would stop! Al and I were getting pretty discouraged; could it
be we might actually have to walk the whole 8 miles home??? It was
sure looking that way! Then we heard a car come screeching to a halt beside us—it was our
old buddy George Dellamura! He rolled down his window and asked, "Hey, you guys need a
ride?" to which Al Huff replied (sarcastically),
"Uh, no George, we enjoy walking in the freezing rain …."
George said, "Okay," rolled up his window and drove off! I
almost killed Huff. I remember Al saying something afterwards like,
"I guess it doesn't pay to be a smart ass at times like this
...."
KP |
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Chernobyl ....
Do any of you 1986 Westpac guys remember the day Chernobyl
melted down? We were somewhere in the Med. (How does one get into the Med on a westpac?) I
remember hearing (but I don't know if this was true) that the 2MMR
and 3MMR APDs alarmed due to the increase in background
radiation. One WO even thought there was a primary to
secondary leak. The thing that sucked most about the whole
Chernobyl thing (besides killing the nuclear power industry in the
U.S.) was that all fresh fruit, milk and vegetables got quarantined
and so we were back to eating canned and boxed stuff like we did in the
IO.
KP |
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Memories of Middle Grove, NY ....
About a month into shift work I finally bought a car. It
was a '77 Pontiac that I got for only $500. It was pretty beat up but
worth every penny because she never failed to start, even when
it was subzero outside. (Sadly, that loyal car was heartlessly
abandoned in the Delta Lot of NAS Alameda when I failed to retrieve
her following the '88 westpac. Alas, she had been replaced by
brand new 1988 Honda CRX.) Middle Grove, NY (also referred to
as Greenfield Center) was out in the middle of nowhere, ....
far, far, far from anything "civilized." Unlike you Idaho
boys
(who took a bus) us New Yorkers had to get to the site on our own. No
excuses! Since they hardly plowed the road we lived on, if it
snowed, which it
did all the time after Thanksgiving, we were SOL. It was like
driving a boat to work as we slogged and fishtailed along, trying to stay within
semi-visible ruts. (We knew which way the road went so we figured we
were on it if we stayed between the trees.) Thank God I never
got stuck. Most of the main roads were plowed but on those icy
days the road into the site was
littered with cars sticking out of ditches. From those
abandoned cars paraded countless sailors, bundled up, walking toward
the site hoping to make it to muster on time. No one would
stop to pick up these guys because everyone knew once you
stopped you'd never get going again. The strange
thing was everyone seemed to make it into work, no matter what. There were no
wussies or wimps among us. Years later when I lived in
Maryland I would panic when there was snow on the ground.
Hell, if we got more than an inch I'd stay home! I'd often
reflect then that when I was younger I was much tougher. Hell,
I even drove from Saratoga to Boston (my home of record at the time) in a
blizzard, so as not to waste a single hour of my precious 4-day off. KP |
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"Skate 8"
Since I'm on a "memory kick," I wanted
to add another thing about prototype. I mentioned earlier that
two of my roommates were assigned to S8G while my other roommate (Al
Huff) and I were assigned to MARF. I also mentioned before
that my pal Al didn't make it to the fleet as a nuke. After
toiling for 6 months in Orlando and then another 6 months at MARF he
failed to pass his second board. This was a huge blow to both
him and I since he also had orders to The Enterprise. He was
one of my best friends and we were very close. He was pretty
much adopted by my mom since he often accompanied me home during our
4-day-off breaks. He also came home with me during our leave
between nuke school and prototype--man, did we have some adventures
that month! (My mom was living in Boston then.)
When I look back on it, Al pretty much gave up the
day we arrived and he saw his name under the MARF list. I
admit I nearly shit myself when I saw I was assigned to MARF,
too. Everyone knew MARF was the toughest. It was no
secret that MARF had the highest failure rate of the four NY
sites. DIG and S3G had reputations for being marginally tough
and S8G was known as "Skate 8," and everyone wanted to be
assigned there.
When things got tough at MARF (i.e., forget
everything you learned in nuke school--'cause we don't have rods) it
didn't help poor Al and I to hear how easy our two S8G roommates had
it. Their staff was "cool," and ours were total
assholes. Everything about MARF sucked compared to S8G.
Everything!
Earlier someone mentioned that all the prototypes
were closed. Is that true? Even A1W and the other Idaho
plants? If so, where do nuke power candidates qualify on a
real reactor these days?
In 1997, when I made a pilgrimage back to Saratoga to attend Dicko's wedding (he was a chief on staff at
S8G), the place had been thinned out of navy nukes. D1G and S3G
had been shut down and I believe the others were slated for the
chopping block,
too. The Judge that performed Dicko's wedding told me that he
didn't see too many sailors in his courtroom anymore. A sure
sign that things had changed and that there were fewer nukes around.
That was actually quite a nostalgic trip back to
Saratoga for me. I brought my wife and children with me and we
made a vacation of it; the place was just as I remembered it during
my prototype days. It was funny to see the bars along Caroline
Street again. In 1997 there were few squids and mostly college
kids but back in 1986 we squids were everywhere. The college
kids looked down on us but we didn't care.
When I took my family out to where I lived in
Middle Grove I was saddened to find my old house was gone. I
learned from locals that it had burned down in the early 90s.
From where my house used to be I drove to the site--somehow
remembering the way, even though nothing looked familiar. When
I saw the D1G Ball again, a thousand memories came to mind. I
knew better than to drive onto the site so I turned around at the
gate and drove away. As I drove along the road leading away
from the site I reflected on all the times Al Huff and I had walked
along that road, hoping for a ride. I told my wife about our
sympathy walk and the day it was raining and George Dellamura
stopped to see if we wanted a ride. She laughed. Ah,
.... memory lane.
KP |
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The World's Longest Bus Ride ....
Hey Bill,
Your stories brought back some long lost memories of my time at prototype and the dumb stuff I used to do. I
went to S1W in Idaho. Class 7502. I used to pal around with Claude McGinley, an EM from the Great State of
Maine. I wonder whatever happened to Mac? Anyway, during the summer of '75 we used to have pretty regular
parties at Mac's place. We drank an awful lot of beer in those days. By today's standards one might say that we
had or were getting near to a problem. One day we got the brilliant idea to see how much beer we could drink
BEFORE going in on a swing shift. I went over to Mac's place in the morning and we commenced to make his
refrigerator a beer free zone. When the time came to catch the bus to the site, we got out there just in time. Of
course you can guess the rest. Both of us had to piss bad before we were even out of town. Neither of us had
anything to use as a container. Every agonizing bump in the road was magnified tenfold as we road in the back
of the bus. One hour or so after leaving we arrived at the gate. It was a miracle neither of us pissed our pants.
We were at the front of the bus before we stopped, waiting for the driver to open the door so we could get to the
toilets in the guard house. we could barely make the walk. I swear we stood at the urinals for a good 5 minutes
each. Maybe even longer. I think my bladder still has stretch marks.
Tom L. |
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Prototypes ....
KP,
I'm at work tonight ....outage time... and one of our relatively newer
employees, mentioned to me that both the Nuke School and Prototype are in
Charleston, SC. Somewhat ironic as that is my state. And that both are
the one and only schools for the Navy. The reactors are 2 Boomers that
were "sliced and diced" (missile compartments removed) for a SALT agreement
(can't remember which one). Also ironic is that I watched the cutting and
rejoining of the subs in Bremerton, WA during the '78 and carry-on overhaul.
The world should sleep easier knowing that MARF, D1G,and all the other
NY, Conn, and Idaho prototypes have been dismantled (or so I've been told).
Regressing, what was the name of that strip bar in Saratoga... When we were
leaving David Morgan found a stripper with suitcase in hand ready to
report to the Big E with him... A year later we hear the same story from a
new NUB (Ben Hunt) and its the same girl!! Good to hear from all the E gang keep sending in stories.
Rx Phil Foss |
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John Baldwin, Coming Aboard!
Just found the website and I can't stop reading! It's been a few years, but the memories came flooding back.
ET1 John Baldwin, RC-23, 1997-2001 email: baldwinjkb@aol.com
I sent along a newsletter that Brian Hendrickson and I came up with while we were in the yards in '99 and morale seemed especially
low. We were weekly for 3 or four months, and everybody loved "The
Stab." We tried to keep it quiet, but I heard stories of
everyone up to the RO ending up with a copy. Anyway, I thought it might be a nice addition to the site. If you want more
let me know, I think I have copies of most issues.
John Baldwin
(Click to enlarge)
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Dave Solomon Comes Aboard!
Great site! What an awesome time in all the ports on the 89 World cruise! It was a once in a lifetime experience.... No regrets... Currently working
at the Calvert Cliffs Nuclear Power Plant in southern Maryland.
Dave Solomon RM-14, 89-91
davesolomon@comcast.net
| I sort of remember you.
(Your cruise book photo looked familiar.) You would
have been a nub down 4-plant when I was a short
timer. Now that you live in Southern Maryland have you
become familiar with SMIBs? I used to have many SMIB
contributors to my earlier Mooj newsletters.
KP |
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A Boatload of E-Divr's
Dickson, Joshua, EE04, 2001- Present JAD2000@aol.com
Urban, Dan, EE04, 2001- Present Qew420@aol.com
Henry, Paul, EE04, 2000 -present Tank007@aol.com
Francisco, Derek, EE03, 2001-Present Immanuel001@aol.com |
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Tony Perry Comes Aboard!
I served onboard Enterprise as a member of Reactor
Laboratories division… I started out in the Radcon workcenter, became Group Supervisor for 1 and 4 plant ELT's, and moved up to Reactor Training for my last 18 months onboard. So I guess that makes my term on there RL Div 1999-2000, RT Division LPO 2001-2002.
I served with Charles Wittkop, Timmy Tasker, Eric Hood, Erik Moll (as ELTs) and most of the other studs who fall into the 1999-2002 timeframe. I was onboard for the duration of Enterprise's involvement with Enduring Freedom, saw the free Garth Brooks concert, and got free tickets to Busch Gardens for my efforts.
Your site rocks… long live Half-mile island!!
Tony Perry
MMC(SW)
Currently serving at MARF, NPTU Ballston Spa.
raelzebra@msn.com
| Now that
MARF
is shutdown what are you doing there? How many nukes are still in
NY?
KP |
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Ah, Someone Cares About Me ....
Hey, KP-
I figure you must be really busy, or sick, or on vacation or something. Haven't seen anything new on the site for a while.
Everything ok, buddy?
Arrgh!
| Actually I was on a mini-vacation.
I brought the wife and kids with me to S. Cal to help out my
dad, who just had some knee surgery. While in S. Cal I
took the family by my old boyhood home and, of course,
Disneyland. As a lad I lived less than 3 miles from
Disneyland so it was a place I knew well. When I was
at CSULB everyone either worked at Disneyland or Knott's.
I applied at Disneyland but got rejected. I guess I wasn't exactly
Disney material (I still have the Mickey Mouse rejection
letter somewhere). I had no problem getting hired at
Knott's though. Knott's was a much better place to
work so I lucked out. I had many friends that worked
at Disneyland so a few Disney tales are embedded in my Mooj
mutterings. The letter about "Mr. Lincoln"
molesting the sweeper is mostly true.
[Or, at least, that's what some guy that worked at Knott's
told me. He had worked at Disneyland and the guy that was supposedly chased by Mr. Lincoln
("Matt the sweeper") wound up at Knott's,
too. One day I asked "Matt" about it and he
screamed and ran off in holy
terror. I was sorry for asking.]
KP |
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The Ice Man Cometh!
Thanks for all your work to put this site together ... this is great. I
stayed up all night reading all the stories. I worked for GENE-fuels for a while but got out of the nuke business Never
knew how crazy the Hippo really was till now! I recognized someone from the
Big E at every N-power plant I ever visited for fuel inspections.
Please add me to your list:
aliased as John "Iceman" Dockbanger RC14 '80-'83
dockbanger@earthlink.net
Looking for:
Peter Klevitch; John Warchol, Steve Wegner, Jose Flores, Andrew Barbee, Jerry Zelmer (Peach Bottom Nuclear Station) |
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Ponderings ....
I really enjoyed reading through The Weekly Stab (see
above). I'm glad to see the 90's guys carried on the tradition
of amusing themselves despite low morale. This, in my opinion,
is what really made Rx and Engineering Dept. stand apart from the
others. It was the little things that added up to make each
day livable. This website is full of examples I
guess! KP |
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From an Anonymous M-Div'r
When I read the note about the pubes in Petrie's coffee cup, I almost spit my beer on the monitor. It
seems most of you know him only later in his career, I knew him as a
nub.
From what I remember, he was in Section 2 at nuke school, so he wasn't the brightest guy to start with,
even though he was probably 7 or 8 years older than the rest of us. I didn't see anything of him in Idaho
Falls, different crews and plants. I ran into him again in RT Div. He ended up as an M-Div mechanic in
3 plant and I sometimes saw him at picnics and stuff. A nice wife, older like him and an out-of-control boy
that didn't look anything like him. Duane was stocky and dark, the kid was gracile and light complected
with lighter hair (might have been blond.) I don't know if any of you ever saw him pre beard ban, but the
boy was just plain furry. If you stuffed his coffee cup with pubes, it probably just made him homesick for
his beard. When I transferred off while the pig was in Bremerton, he had made MM1 and was Div PO
(IIRC) and spending so much time on the ship that some other nuke was hanging out with his wife.
From what I heard, she stayed with him until he retired, then divorced him and took half his
retirement. OUCH! Last I knew, he was a car salesman in Bremerton, those of you in
the area might want to check out the local dealerships and look him up.
Anonymous M-Divver |
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Gulf War and Marf prototype commandos
...
I heard on the news the other day that sailors in the gulf were to stand down prior to the start of the war to get some rest. I wonder if
I was the only one who thought that the RO on some of the nukes were thinking, "Hey with no flight ops tonight we can run two sets
of drills!" If it didn't happen I bet it was brought up.......
I was one of the lucky ones to get Marf. I failed the electrical part of the 80% exam. Almost all the questions were on the water
brake. I only needed one point to pass but couldn't get it. Had to see the XO, but didn't think I was in trouble as I got over a 3.6 on
the rest of the test. Little did I realize.......ended up on mando hours until I qualified. One thing I picked up on at prototype was my lasting contempt of staff pickups. The sea returnees would cut you slack and would
give you a few sigs on credit at the end of the week if you needed it. The prototype commandos were mostly jerks. I never wanted
them in plant on the ship as they thought they knew everything and most ended up in RT as instructors or the M-Div office. Not all
were bad. My favorite was Smith, a HUGE (as in a tad overweight) guy everyone called Smitty. He had a 17 year old wife and was
from the deep south. My best Smitty stories were watching a guy read a letter in his cube sitting on the floor with his back against
the lockers. After a few minutes he realizes that something is dripping on him. Looking up he sees Smitty's outstretched arm with
sweat dripping from it. (It always was very warm in M-Div berthing.) That was good for a laugh for a long time.
Smitty had a nice car and loved it. He took us to the A's game July 4th (1985?) and we sat in the infield after the game to watch
the fireworks. It was quite a show and afterwards got to the parking lot and saw that a lot of the ash and still burning embers had
landed on his car. As we were all drunk we thought it was funny as hell. Thought Smitty was going to die...... Well good luck to all of you nukes out at sea and hope you get home
soon...
JD, 82-86
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I totally remember Smitty!! He was often the PPWS when I was
RE. It was both a blessing and a curse to see Smitty on
watch--a blessing because you knew he was cool and wouldn't give a
shit about anything you did (like write in the dopeybook) and a
curse since you knew he would park his ass on the SWGR floor and not
move for 4 hrs. You would then have to hear all his
"stories." He often told us about his young wife and
how they got married (spent their honeymoon in his car broke in the parking lot
of a Piggly Wiggly I recall). He used to say when he got his
re-enlistment bonus he was the richest man in his town and his
teeny-bopper wife's
parents thought he was a great catch. Smitty was a great
guy. I have no idea what happened to him, though. Anyone
know?
KP |
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A-Gang Memories ....
KP,
Send me out a shirt, I'll wear it. If anyone out there knows the
whereabouts of Tim Druck (2 planter back in the mid late nineties) or Mike
Dyas, ELT from the same time period, let me know. Finally I've read thru all
the sea stories and have gotten some ideas of pranks to play here on the
DDG...
Being a GSM is alright, but cross-rating to get off the pig was in
retrospect the worst damn decision I ever made. I'd just now be checking into shore duty if I hadn't done that. Oh well. Been trying to remember some of the stuff that happened while I was
on the pig, most of it escapes me, I do remember hearing about one thing
though, The was a MMFN Pinero (hope I got the spelling right) that was
standing water cunt-trol on the 95-96 cruise. About a month in to the cruise
the Air Boss calls down and wants to wash planes. Pinero said
no. Well the Air Boss didn't like that so he went all the way up the COC getting the same
answer, "What did water control tell you?" Finally when the AB got to the
skipper (Malone?) he asked if he could wash planes, skip asked him what
water told him and the AB said that water had told him no.
This really pissed off Mad Dog Malone, so the captain told the AB that for the rest of
the cruise that whenever the Air Boss wanted to wash airplanes that he'd have
to go ask FN Pinero personally if he could. Well Pinero being himself out of
spite and total hatred of chowdales every chance he got told the AB no
fucking way could they wash planes! I guess they had some dirty planes that
cruise.
Another thing that comes to mind is a LT Dodson, A-gang DO.
He stood watch in 2 plant. It seemed like whenever he was on watch for some reason or
another 2 plant would scram out. I guess he got the nickname
"Scram 'em Bob" Can't imagine why....
Does anyone else remember FN Pinero? I think he was part of the Addams Family.
On yeah, another name to add to the memorial list, MM3 Jerry Simons.
Good friend of mine, shared an aisle down in M-div berthing for a couple of
years. I remember the incinerator fire, I was on watch down in NR 2
Steering gear room. Smoke started to come in the ventilation so
I called central to report it, by the time I got off the phone and out to the booth
the smoke was so think I couldn't see the door. I grabbed the logs and ran.
Stupid me I went thru the RM berthing and was about to the top of the ladder
outboard when I saw the flames aft, I hooked the corner and booked it out on
the HB. Next thing I know I'm standing next to MM1 Dave Sullivan, he's in
shower shoes, dung shirt and underwear holding his pants. So we do the next
logical thing, go smoke. You shoulda seen the look on those airedales faces
when he walked on the smoke deck with those leopard print bikini underwear!
Oh yeah, I recall the guy with the big brown trash bag... If any of you guys hear about the "Baba-lube" incident on the West
Virginia, I know that guy, he was my recruiter. (You know, the one the
wiped the starboard main engine and KTB?) A few years after that he got de-nuked
and eventually ended up on the pig up in the cat steam shop. Any of you M-diver's remember the shit flood of late '97 the
night before we had to get underway for hurricane Bonnie? The memory of Chad Myers
standing SAP in civvies is still with me.
-A-gang puke |
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The Press of Ignorance ....
I have spent last three hours trying to read through all the postings from
the journalist "embedded" on the nuclear carriers. While some of the writings
are not too stupid (one in Jerusalem Post was actually pretty good), not a
single nuclear trained type has been quoted.
Anyone that sees or hears of a nuke be quoted might want to post a link
here. I don't know if the powers at be fear what a nuke would say, or if the
journalist never get that far down in the ship.
Cruiser ghost |
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Steve Wilson Comes Aboard ....
Dear King Paul, My name is Steve Wilson, former CMO in #4MMR, classmate/shipmate of Ron Ogan on your 70's list of former BIG E
sailors. I would really appreciate being added to that 70's list. I also have a picture of a painting on 4 main's moisture separator
painted in 1964 that we saved several times from the KKK {khaki klad kocksuckers}, which I need to have enlarged and would like to
send to you for your archives. Please advise. My e-mail addresses
are: RIraider00@aol.com, RIraider00
@yahoo.com or VETS2002@aol.com . I'm anxiously awaiting you reply!
[More from Steve .....]
Yo KP, It's me, Wilson from EM-14 again with a couple of notes: Loudermilk signed my qual standard on "E" and later
worked at Chevron oil refinery in Richmond, CA with myself and other 70's "E" nucs; and Ross Welch was famous for awarding himself the
Vietnam service and campaign ribbons after the fall of Saigon. I've got stories
galore from the 70's on "E" but will have to read all the pages before submitting anything. I can also dig up some pictures from P.I. that should bring some laughs. Quickest contact with
me for now will be VETS2002@aol.com
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Great to hear from you Steve! Send your pictures to this email
address. I usually shrink them down to fit on the page or will
use a thumbnail if it is too big. Can't wait to hear some of
your stories!!
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"Bainbridge development plan makes
residents' tempers flare.."
Hey, all you Bainbridge NPS guys might find it amusing that
people are fighting over the once hallowed grounds of your alma
mater NTC Bainbridge (follow Link).
I lived just outside of Port Deposit, MD for 7 years and never knew
there was a nuke school there until one of my co-workers said he
went there. I thought he was pulling my leg until someone sent me a
patch from NPS Bainbridge.
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Jerry Anderson Comes Aboard!
My name is Jerry Anderson and I was on the Enterprise from 1981-83 and then again from 1986-88. I was a Forward Group ELT
both times (RL Division). I would really like to be added to the list. Thanks
MM1 (SW) Jerry Anderson
BearDravan1@aol.com
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Div (blond guy with a big bushy mustache--was that you?) As
always it's great to have another 80's guy
onboard!
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Lueschner?
Hey, in the three years I've been running this website, not one
person has mentioned Captn' Lueschner. Did he strike that much
fear into your hearts that you won't even mention his name 20 years
later? I posted two stories about Lueschner in my Mooj
newsletters a few years back. One was about the guy who fell
overboard and the other was about hitting Bishop's Rock. I
thought for sure someone out there would write in to confirm or
correct those stories but no one ever did. Oh well....
KP
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More About Prototype Commandos ...
JD hit the nail on the head when he described the
prototype commandos. Most were Star Babies, too, if I recall
correctly. There was one staff pickup, however, that was
pretty cool. It was RM11's Kevin Keeney. I met him at
MARF when I was a newly qualified student, forever standing
"Auxiliary Electrician" and he was the eternal ERLL (or
whatever they called ERLL on a submarine). He was in the class
ahead of mine and only one of a few rare staff pickups at
MARF.
I was surprised to see Kevin again when he showed
up on the Big E sometime before or after the '88 cruise. And,
then, as if we were fated to be together once again, we both wound
up at Cal
Poly after the navy.
In college we hung out all the time and since he
was a bass player and I a guitar man, we jammed often. We even
played in a few bands together. (Boy, do I have some stories
about them days.....)
Kevin was actually a great bass
player--probably one of the best I played with at that
time. The funny thing was I never saw him play on the
Pig. There were dozens of guitar and bass players in RX dept
and we jammed almost every night when at sea. But Kevin was
never among that group. I later found out it was because Kevin
had only "just" started playing bass. I couldn't believe
it! He was basically self-taught and could "pop"
like a pro! I think we both graduated about the same time
(~1993) but I have no idea where he eventually wound up.
Anyone out there know?
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Leuschner, Hard Core Navy ....
I remember that guy honestly thought he could take the E into WW III and
win it. The thing that pissed me off about him was those six hour- yes,
six hour- GQs! I felt bad for the guys who got stuck in the plant for
GQ, then would secure from GQ only to go on watch for another five hours!
(Where there 5 and 10s on the '86 cruise?) I really couldn't complain personally because my GQ station was the RT void when he did
that. I remember we ended up staying at sea extra days to qualify another carrier's air wing, and he sent the XO and Command Master Chief
out to check out the morale aboard the ship. I was shooting hoops on
the hanger deck and the command master chief came over to talk to us.
Guys gave the Master Chief an earful. I think we cut the time a little
short, but we still extended by a few day One more memory and I'll shut up. There was a Nub I had (Carroll I
think his last name was). I had to write this dude up for failing to
qualify BNEQ (He was in RT like 5-6 months) and for failing to keep clean. Guys were complaining this dude wouldn't change his sheets or
take a bath. Leuschner had to ORDER this guy to take a shower. Captain's Mast seemed to be his least favorite task, and though he was
hard on my nub, he HATED guys up there for drugs. Leuschner was hard
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Dirty Laundry
What smells worse than a sweaty squids dirty skivvies? The same skivvies the day they returned from the so called "ship's
laundry." During the 82-83 cruise, the laundry (which was just below
RX berthing) was a frightful thing indeed. My clothes always came back wet, nasty, and smelling even worse than when they went into the
laundry. I don't know if I was just lucky, or if everyone remembers this bane. So, we developed the infamous RARLL "chinese
laundry."
Here's how we did it: once every other week or so (depending on how many uniforms you had) you'd stand your
"RCER Proficiency" watch, which you would conveniently schedule a mids or 4-8 watch, which no one really wanted anyway. Then,
you "procured" some di or tri-sodium phosphates from the ELTs (hey, it's just soap!).
In the 4 plant RCERLL sink, there was a piece of 1 inch mesh screen and a brush, which were used to scrub the clothes.
Rinse, wring, and on to the dryers. The dryers were just a rail someplace for the small items, like socks,
skivvies, etc. Pants, however, needed to be tied off to the air supply ducts for drying to be completed before you got off watch. I can still 'em, legs
flappin' away! I recall seeing a pair of pants in the bilge once that weren't tied off right. Careful, careful! Those seafarers will
bitch up an eductor in no time flat! More than once, I got chewed out by a PPWO for "that damn Chinese
laundry." Hey, at least the clothes were clean! One officer even asked if he could do his
civvies down there, and I said "Who's gonna tell you that you can't?"
I hope someone out there has a picture of this practice!
Arrgh!
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situation was no better. I recall seeing many an item
drying down in 4 RCERLL so the Chinese laundry was still in
use in my time. I also recall having to buy dozens of
skivvies after each deployment to replace the
gray-blue mildewy ones I had to live with at sea. If I
recall correctly you could get a 12-pack of "no
name" skivvies at the Navy Exchange for about 4
bucks. Skivvies were pretty much disposable during the
workup cruises.
Since we're on the topic of laundry, does
anyone remember those laundry rooms in the NPS BEQs?
Remember how people would do a load and then forget about
it, thus, tying up a washing machine for hours? Since
free time was scarce many a person would take revenge on the
inconsiderate bastard by tossing in dungarees with the
guilty person's whites and then starting the washer over
again. Many a fight broke out because of
that.
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More Laundry and Leuschner Memories
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In 4MMR we had an actual washboard to use and wire strung up behind the DFT. I bet it was 140 degrees up there. When someone
says laundry the first thing to come to my mind is pink underwear.
I had to really think when I heard "Leuschner," then it hit me: Wingnut! Amazing how you remember the
nicknames..........
JD
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4MMR M/S Painting
Here is "The Stub." I think it was painted in 1964. We saved it several times by covering it
with plastic and lagging cloth to preserve it. This picture was taken in late 1977 or early
1978. This should be enlarged to enjoy the details. As an added stimuli, guess what type of
liquor the jug contained. Clue: check label on jug.
Steve Wilson

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Laundry & Shower Memories
We used to use the DI water from the RPFW system (hey, it was warm) to clean clothes and even grab an occasional shower during
water hours. People wondered how the nukes always had clean clothes and looked (and smelled) fresh after watch.
Just a little TYGON tubing and a shower head tied right up to the cooler vent made for a great shower.
Will save talking about using the old DECON laundry in 3 plant for another time. No one could ever figure out why the level in the
ODT kept going up. It took some quick talking to convince the upper echelon that the primary valves were not the culprit. It was the
only way the BIG DOGS could justify raising level in the ODT. No one ever asked them to check trends on PZR level. They finally
took the facility out in the early 2000s and made some sort of office out of the space.
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Leuschner, Hard Core Navy ....with a wicked right cross!
I remember waiting for Mast one day on the Admiral’s Bridge. All the witnesses stayed up for all the festivities.
A young sailor was getting ready to feel the wrath of Leuschner … you knew he was going to screw someone when he looked over
those half-glasses at the accused.
Anyway, before the Marine or Masters at Arms could react, this young sailor propelled himself toward the podium and the Skipper.
It happened so damn fast …. Leuschner must have sensed something. He laid this guy out across the podium with a right cross.
The kid slumps across the podium near unconscious … the Skipper sentenced him anyway and off to the Brig he went.
Speaking of tough Skippers … what about Rocky?
I remember he told the crew how much he hated thieves …. And if anyone was caught, that they were to be brought directly to the
bridge. He added “if the accused fell down a couple of flights of stairs on the way up, so be it.”
Did enjoy his Watch Supervisor board though … spent about 45 minutes steering the great warship while he explained his theories
of leadership and nuclear power. All that studying about 6-factor formulas and other assorted nonsense was wasted on that board.
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The Big Bust
Perhaps the biggest "bust" during my stint on the E was
when some clowns got caught selling drugs out of the ship's
store. Actually, it wasn't the main ship's store (the one up
by the foc'scle) but that little compartment near the aft mess decks,
where one could buy toiletries. The place was only open a few
hours a day and there was usually only one guy in there selling stuff through a window. The bust happened after we left
Mombassa (1988) so the storekeepers must of had some good shit.
(" .... I'll have some soap, shaving cream .... and an
8-ball of
hashish....")
When these guys were busted they were immediately shackled and
paraded up to the flight deck for the next flight off. "VW"
was scheduled to fly off that day (I can't remember why ... some
training thing) and when he took his seat in the S-3 he
didn't notice that the two other passengers were in chains until he
was halfway to Diego Garcia. He almost shit his pants. KP
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